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Thought provoking post on Captain Jacks blog recently. What would your life be like if there were no teachers, no gurus and no community to teach how to be better with women?
I’ve actually been doing this for a few months now… except I’m acknowledging that the Community exists just that it is wrong about everything…Just for a moment, Imagine….
No community. No help whatsoever aside from Barbara DeAngelis and Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus.
No Gurus, No bootcamps, No seminars, No TV shows, No online forums or DVD’s or CD’s. No RSD, Mystery Method, No Speed Seduction….
All of it….Gone.
Imagine a big dumpster in your mind and all that stuff going into the dumpster and then the dumpster fades into nothingness.
What do you do?
You are alone with no help.
You still need to meet a sex partner or a girlfriend or lover. Biological urges are the same. But now its just you and girls.
Take this seriously.
What does your heart tell you to do?
This is a tough one for me to answer because as you probably know I’m only 20 years of age and have been in “the community” for over 3 years (5 if you count Double Your Dating). Meaning I’ve never been a generic “club chode” buying drinks/flowers etc for women in order to try and get laid.
However thinking back to high school I realize just how much of a different person I was. I was your normal average geek (in fact I think I was the geekiest guy in my grade), I loved computers and computer games, I only had male friends (up until grade 12 where I realized I couldn’t hold my sexual urges back forever ;)), and because I’m not that good looking of a guy (decidedly average) I rarely had girls like me.
If the community never came along nearly all of the girls I meet would probably have been from inside my social circle, plain jane average girls or incredibly geeky ones. I probably wouldn’t have bothered going out clubbing (Aside from pickup I generally don’t find it that enticing), and the few house parties would be my only spots for good social interaction.
In my attempts to pick them up I’d probably try learning/doing a lot of humor and comedy (at the moment I’m working on improv and stage comedy as it’s something I enjoy) as from what I’ve seen the very best non-community guys are generally incredibly funny/fun guys, I’d probably base a lot of my game off of that.
I’d probably also try to allure women with money, a nice car, a big house etc as I’m also very business minded and love working on making money even when I know it won’t help at all with getting women (we’ll I’d think it works well if I didn’t know about the community :))
My Inner game would probably be based off of Personal Development websites and books (Steve Pavlina, Tony Robbins, Dale Carnegie) and they can help a hell of a lot (most of the improvements I got in the early stages of game were from working on my inner self), but a lot of the information is generally based around relationships rather than those first few hours of meeting a girl.
Now why was this question asked?
He essentially gave it away at the start of the post. The idea is that perhaps the strategies we have been taught in “the community” are in fact just another form of (some would say better) social conditioning.
Because everything in the community has generally been based off previous knowledge maybe it isn’t the right way to go and we are trying to build a skyscraper of information on flawed foundations. What if everything in the community is wrong? I know it works (duh :p) but what if it isn’t how we are supposed to be as men?
It’s only just been in the past 2 years as more and more people have been getting into the field that people are starting realize Mystery Method is fatally flawed. In that using mystery method style tactics works, and it works a lot better than being a generic club chode, but just in the past 2-3 years so many new techniques and styles of game have come along that just blow it out of the water.
This is due to the fact that it was based on centered around Mystery’s Personality and game, and we are just learning that in-congruency is one of the biggest killers of attraction out there (I’ll post more about this later). Guys were going out for years painting their nails black, wearing fluffy hats and peacocking to extremes and although they were getting lays it was very incongruent to who they really were. It works well for Mystery as he’s a magician and loves to put on a show, but it doesn’t work so well for joe the programmer who lives in suburbia and drives a toyota.
This is just one example of how many men have gone “wow that guys good with women, lets learn from him” and have evolved that style of game (inventing their own gambits/routines etc) but it was still based on a flawed concept. What if many things we’ve been taught in the community are also based on flawed concepts? Just like Hollywood teaches us buying flowers and sucking up to girls is a good thing (hint: it’s not), perhaps we are being influenced in the same way by the community?
I think this is one of the main ways Captain Jack has been improving his game so rapidly, and coming up with the whole idea of sexualized game.
In fact if you haven’t yet subscribed to his newsletter I HIGHLY suggest you do. By not subscribing there is just so much new awesome information you’re missing out on.
So what would you do if the community did not exist?
The Original Post is at: http://www.betheseducer.com/2008/03/what-would-you-do-if-the-community-did-not-exist/
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October 5th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
If the community didn’t exist I’d probably be married.
With no options around, I’d probably would’ve settled with my last girlfriend.
Such is life though eh?
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October 6th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
If the community didn’t exist I honestly don’t know what I’d be doing. I’d probably be back at my old restaurant job married to my first girlfriend and trying to take care of my kids while constantly being depressed abut life.
The community has helped me in so many ways, not only being better with women but improving my self esteem, helping me strive towards a better life, and giving me a sense of freedom and power I’ve never experienced before.
I owe it a lot.
October 6th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
With no community I’d probably be having more fun, while before I often thought outside my head and just did whatever I felt like, not I go all self analytical every few moments.
Guess with time I’ll get there
October 14th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
@Havik: Heh I know what you mean, when I first started in the community I was soooo inside my head trying to analyze every single moment, and got way more anxiety than ever before.